Friday, January 17, 2025

2025 Obligatory Hall Of Fame Post


 
On January 21st, we'll find out who gets to join Dick Allen and Dave Parker in next summer's Hall of Fame festivities. I enjoy this time of year, especially as voters reveal their ballots. I actually like reading about these votes, and the thought process each writer makes in choosing who they think is worthy. I wish more writers gave us a inside look at their choices. It's fascinating.

For the past few years, I wrote about who I felt deserved to get elected. I decided to do that again this year as well. Pardon me while I copy and paste from part of my original post from 2018:

I obviously do not have an official vote, but I too have thought about who is worthy and who would make my unofficial ballot. Before I list my choices, a few clarifications into my voting process:
  • I'm a "Big Hall" type of guy - I believe that the Hall's main purpose is to reflect the history of the game. I'm not going to cross a guy off just because he's not an inner circle type.
  • As far as PED users go, I generally don't have a strong opinion. Again, the Hall should reflect this era of the game. To be honest, I have genuine reservations as to how much PED usage affects a player's overall stats. That being said, those guys are placed in the back of the line. As much as I may feel Manny Ramirez deserves to get in, if there are at least 10 other worthy candidates, he won't make my ballot.
I'm going to categorize players into 3 groups - definitely worthy, probably worthy, and maybe worthy. (Real scientific, I know...)
 
I've since added a 4th group, Not Worthy, to at least give a nod of appreciation to those "one and done" ballplayers you won't likely see on next year's ballot. I've also unfortunately forced myself to make a decision on a player who has been a part of the Astros cheating scandal.
 

Definitely Worthy

 
These are the guys I don't have to think hard about. Statistically, they belong, and that's all there is to it. Obviously, because of the PED/cheating issues, it's possible that not all of these guys may make my final ballot.

Carlos Beltrán - The "character clause" gets interesting with Beltran on the ballot. He was the primary scapegoat of the Astros' cheating scandal, due in part to being the only player from that team whose career concluded between that World Series victory and the report getting released. He was never officially punished, so how do the voters view this transgression? For now, I'm lumping Beltran with the PED users as guys who will get my non-official vote, but not if there are any worthy candidates ahead of him. 

Manny Ramirez - Great player, dumb asshole. He would be a Hall of Fame lock if it weren't for the  PED suspensions and off-field bullshit.
 
Alex Rodriguez - Great player, egotistical asshole. He would be a Hall of Fame lock if it weren't for the  PED suspensions and the ways he tried to weasel around all of it.
 
CC Sabathia - A former Cy Young winner with over 250 victories and 3,000 strikeouts should get a plaque.

Ichiro Suzuki - If ever there was a slam-dunk candidate for the hall, Ichiro is it. The only question will be if he gets in unanimously. 
 
2019 Topps Archives
#315 Ichiro (HL, SP)

Probably Worthy

These players have strong cases, but not airtight. There are usually some reservations. However, if they get elected, I won't have a problem with it.

Torii Hunter - Statistically, he's not among the elite, but he strikes me as the kind of player whose 9 Gold Gloves, highlight reel catches, and overall love of the game will get him in someday through a veterans' committee.

Andruw Jones - A decade of being one of the most dynamic and electrifying players in baseball might be enough to overcome a legendary drop-off in production.

Dustin Pedroia - The heart and soul of multiple World Series Champion teams, Pedey gave everything he had on the field. He's one of those players you can't help but wonder what they could have done if their career had not been cut short from an on the field injury.
 
2009 Topps - Ring Of Honor
#RH-56 Dustin Pedroia
 
Chase Utley - Stat-based voters love him, but outside of those elite peak years he was pretty pedestrian.

Billy Wagner - He was dominant on the field (more so than Trevor Hoffman), but pitching under 1,000 innings in his career is a tough hurdle to jump for a Hall of Fame player.

Maybe Worthy

These guys have their supporters, and may have a long stay on the ballots because of them, but I'm not convinced they belong.

Bobby Abreu - Walks are not exciting. He may have been elite at getting on base, but he was never someone I saw play and thought "Now that's a Hall of Famer!"

Mark Beuhrle - He was a consistently solid starter, but that's not really Hall worthy.
 
Felix Hernandez - He kind of strikes me as the pitching counterpart to Andruw Jones: Started off strongly, then just fell off a performance cliff.

2016 Topps #283 Felix Hernandez

Ian Kinsler - Kinsler, Utley and Pedroia were the premier second basemen of their time, and it'll be intereting to watch how voters essentially rank their worthiness.

Brian McCann - Right under our noses, McCann surprisingly ended up as one of the best power-hitting catchers in baseball. His 10 season of at least 20 home runs trails only Piazza, Berra, and Bench.

Andy Petitte - An average pitcher who had the benefit of pitching for one of the most dominate baseball dynasties in recent history.

Jimmy Rollins - An underrated player, the former MVP is 6th all-time in games played at shortstop.

Francisco Rodríguez - 4th all-time in saves and the single season leader, but he just wasn't the same when he left the Angels.
 
Omar Vizquel - Without even getting into what a horrible human being he is, he was never a real candidate for me. Outside the Gold Gloves, he was an mediocre ballplayer at best.

David Wright - I initially thought Wright wasn't worthy, but if I wonder what Pedroia's candidacy would have looked like without the injuries, than I can do no less for one of the Mets' all-time greats.

Not Worthy

 
In my opinion, none of these guys have a strong enough case to be elected. 
 
Carlos Gonzalez, Curtis Granderson, Adam Jones, Russell Martin, Hanley Ramirez, Fernando Rodney, Troy Tulowitzki, Ben Zobrist

These names gave us a lot of great individual seasons and highlight reel moments, but just didn't have the longevity of greatness required.

My Ballot

Here's my unofficial 10 player ballot:

  1. Carlos Beltran
  2. Torii Hunter
  3. Andruw Jones
  4. Dustin Pedroia
  5. Manny Ramirez
  6. Alex Rodriguez
  7. CC Sabathia
  8. Ichiro Suzuki
  9. Chase Utley
  10. Billy Wagner

Ramirez and Rodriguez are held back due to their PED connections, while Beltran gets the same treatment for his involvement in the Astos scandal. That leaves newcomers Suzuki and Sabathia from the Definitely Worthy list and 5 guys from the Probably Worthy list. Three spots remaining, so the trio of Beltran, Ramirez, and Rodriguez make their way on regardless.

Ichiro, Sabathia and Wagner (who is in his final year on the ballot) look like they'll make it, with Beltran and Jones also putting up strong numbers. It's looking like we'll have another good sized class this year!
 

1 comment:

  1. If Billy Wagner doesn't make it in I'll be severely disappointed. For my part, I would say he was a better pitcher than Trevor Hoffman, with a shorter career.

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